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lexus1581
Anyone ever watch the show before? I am watching it now, it seems good. They are actually showing how Ford is producing "Daisy" which will be the new 427 Cobra! :rock:

mustangdriver
I had class and volleyball last night so I missed it. I'm assuming like all good TLC shows it will be on at least 3 times a week! :rock:

scubie02
*Damn that girl in Lex's avatar is hot...*

Uh, oh, I mean, yeah, tlc...

jimbunting
Anyone ever watch the show before? I am watching it now, it seems good. They are actually showing how Ford is producing "Daisy" which will be the new 427 Cobra! :rock:

Ford required the TLC tv production team to keep all their cameras, and editting equipment at the Ford labs, for security reasons. In a practical sense this meant that no "leaks" were allowed to get out about the details of the " Daisy " project.

It was nice to see that Carrol Shelby was consulted on the car's concept, but to call it a Shelby Cobra, is a bit of a reach. At 81 years of age, Mr Shelby didn't have much to do with it, except to say "Looks good, boys". Letting him drive it around the Irwindale, California oval track, at about 40 mph, was a nice "Photo opportunity" but lets face it, the car is/was a Ford design, not anything from Mr Shelby's mind.

I'll be very surprised if this car ever makes it to the street. Too exotic and most drivers won't want to pay that kind of price for a re-hashed two seater, with no trunk or one that is suppossed to burn race fuel, to run right. A V-10 engine with no history of reliabliity, and a trans that will need constant shop time to keep it working, Not one I would buy.

Jim Bunting. Toronto, Ontario. Canada.

scubie02
So, basically you're saying "bah, humbug!"? :p

mustangdriver
Ford required the TLC tv production team to keep all their cameras, and editting equipment at the Ford labs, for security reasons. In a practical sense this meant that no "leaks" were allowed to get out about the details of the " Daisy " project.

It was nice to see that Carrol Shelby was consulted on the car's concept, but to call it a Shelby Cobra, is a bit of a reach. At 81 years of age, Mr Shelby didn't have much to do with it, except to say "Looks good, boys". Letting him drive it around the Irwindale, California oval track, at about 40 mph, was a nice "Photo opportunity" but lets face it, the car is/was a Ford design, not anything from Mr Shelby's mind.

I'll be very surprised if this car ever makes it to the street. Too exotic and most drivers won't want to pay that kind of price for a re-hashed two seater, with no trunk or one that is suppossed to burn race fuel, to run right. A V-10 engine with no history of reliabliity, and a trans that will need constant shop time to keep it working, Not one I would buy.

Jim Bunting. Toronto, Ontario. Canada.

Hell of a first post :fro:

Basically it is a Viper fighter. Put a less Spartan interior in it and sell it for $80K - $90K and you're all set!

jimbunting
Hell of a first post :fro:

Basically it is a Viper fighter. Put a less Spartan interior in it and sell it for $80K - $90K and you're all set!


MUSTANG DRIVER:

Obviously, you are a Ford fan, so I can understand the little bit of saliva/drool that is currently running out of the corner of your mouth.

O.K. so lets come back down to earth, shall we?

Recognise that 99.6 percent of the North American car buying public would NEVER spend that kind of money on ANY car, and then tell me how many of these "toys" will be sold.

I'll state right now that I happen to own about 3,000 shares of Ford Canada class A stock, and I'd much rather see them concentrate on the cars and vans that do MAKE MONEY, instead of this dream car. No trunk, reliability questions on the engine, and a fair weather car design, all add up to a near zero score as a mass market car.

I got a real laugh out watching the team try to fire up the V-10 engine but the computer could not be "urged" to put in more spark advance, cause the software wouldn't do it. I remember with fondness the old days when you simply loosened the distributor shaft clamp and turned it to the "sweet spot" then clamped it back down, after a timing light check, of course.

The NEW COBRA will be a big hit with a very small minority of the public who can afford a car that you can't drive in the rain, can't carry any luggage, and can't park it anywhere due to worries about it being stolen or vandalised. Great idea. I don't think>

Jim Bunting. Toronto. Ontario. Canada.

lexus1581
The NEW COBRA will be a big hit with a very small minority of the public who can afford a car that you can't drive in the rain, can't carry any luggage, and can't park it anywhere due to worries about it being stolen or vandalised. Great idea. I don't think>

You're views are pretty head on except for this paragraph. Isnt there just as much luggage space in the Cobra as in any other Stang? I dont know where you live but around here cars arent vandalized and not many people know the difference between a Cobra and regular V6.

NightRider
MUSTANG DRIVER:

Obviously, you are a Ford fan, so I can understand the little bit of saliva/drool that is currently running out of the corner of your mouth.

O.K. so lets come back down to earth, shall we?

Recognise that 99.6 percent of the North American car buying public would NEVER spend that kind of money on ANY car, and then tell me how many of these "toys" will be sold.

I'll state right now that I happen to own about 3,000 shares of Ford Canada class A stock, and I'd much rather see them concentrate on the cars and vans that do MAKE MONEY, instead of this dream car. No trunk, reliability questions on the engine, and a fair weather car design, all add up to a near zero score as a mass market car.

I got a real laugh out watching the team try to fire up the V-10 engine but the computer could not be "urged" to put in more spark advance, cause the software wouldn't do it. I remember with fondness the old days when you simply loosened the distributor shaft clamp and turned it to the "sweet spot" then clamped it back down, after a timing light check, of course.

The NEW COBRA will be a big hit with a very small minority of the public who can afford a car that you can't drive in the rain, can't carry any luggage, and can't park it anywhere due to worries about it being stolen or vandalised. Great idea. I don't think>

Jim Bunting. Toronto. Ontario. Canada.

concept bud. The motor was still being designed, it would need another year of engineering followed by epa testing, and remember, that was the first time the motor had been in a car at all.

the mustang concept had an entirely glass roof. Its a nice idea, and if ford worked on it for a while, i do not think they would have any problem making it a feesable production car. if not for the masses, then for enough people that it would be worthwile.

in my opinion it seems better that they are at least trying to make cool cars. when was the last time someone said to you "HEY LETS GO TO THE KIA DEALER" Expensive cars make the company selling them look more attractive. "my car was made by the same people as that gt40 thing" sounds alot better than "my car was made by the same people as that cool minivan"

jimbunting
You're views are pretty head on except for this paragraph. Isnt there just as much luggage space in the Cobra as in any other Stang? I dont know where you live but around here cars arent vandalized and not many people know the difference between a Cobra and regular V6.


I'm sorry but I think you are confusing the street model Mustang Cobra with this new concept car, which has a completely different body style. This is going to be marketed as the NEW COBRA, from Carrol Shelby. It will have a tiny trunk, or even NO trunk, depending on styling changes that happen before it is mass produced.

Jim Bunting. Toronto.

jimbunting
concept bud. The motor was still being designed, it would need another year of engineering followed by epa testing, and remember, that was the first time the motor had been in a car at all.

the mustang concept had an entirely glass roof. Its a nice idea, and if ford worked on it for a while, i do not think they would have any problem making it a feesable production car. if not for the masses, then for enough people that it would be worthwile.

in my opinion it seems better that they are at least trying to make cool cars. when was the last time someone said to you "HEY LETS GO TO THE KIA DEALER" Expensive cars make the company selling them look more attractive. "my car was made by the same people as that gt40 thing" sounds alot better than "my car was made by the same people as that cool minivan"


Expensive cars make the company look more attractive?

If that was really true, Rolls Royce dealers wouldn't be able to keep cars in their showrooms, as they, and Ferrari make the MOST expensive cars in the world. Right?

The reality of this Ford exercise, and remember I have a considerable chunk of MY money invested in Ford stock, as I say this is..........A feel good exercise for the styling department, and a attempt to guage the actual market for a hyper-priced new car.

Jim Bunting. Toronto.

NightRider
Expensive cars make the company look more attractive?

If that was really true, Rolls Royce dealers wouldn't be able to keep cars in their showrooms, as they, and Ferrari make the MOST expensive cars in the world. Right?

The reality of this Ford exercise, and remember I have a considerable chunk of MY money invested in Ford stock, as I say this is..........A feel good exercise for the styling department, and a attempt to guage the actual market for a hyper-priced new car.

Jim Bunting. Toronto.

I did not say expensive, i said cool. and yes ferrari and rolls do make the most expensive cars, and on that note, if ferrari or rolls made a 20k car, would it not be a very attractive buy? I know several people that bought porche 944's not beucase of any reason besides it was the only porsche they could afford.

my point is that the supercars kind of bring the notion to mind that "hey all domestics arent unreliable ugly 3 ton underpowered monsters" the ford gt is only planned to be made for like 4 years, i imagine the cobra would be the same. And how much cooler would a mustang with a gt40 motor be? or a 600 hp v10 mustang? Or a awd gt powered ford five hundred?

The american companies need a gimmick to get people to come back and mabe buy some cars, and these showboat cars are a way to say "hey we can run with anyone out there"

lexus1581
I'm sorry but I think you are confusing the street model Mustang Cobra with this new concept car, which has a completely different body style. This is going to be marketed as the NEW COBRA, from Carrol Shelby. It will have a tiny trunk, or even NO trunk, depending on styling changes that happen before it is mass produced.

Jim Bunting. Toronto.

You, sir, are correct. I thought we were talking the Mustang Cobra.

NightRider
You, sir, are correct. I thought we were talking the Mustang Cobra.

its funny beucase this is your thread :D

lexus1581
its funny beucase this is your thread :D

Well you must specify...

Oh quiet! :slap:

mustangdriver
MUSTANG DRIVER:

Obviously, you are a Ford fan, so I can understand the little bit of saliva/drool that is currently running out of the corner of your mouth.

O.K. so lets come back down to earth, shall we?

Recognise that 99.6 percent of the North American car buying public would NEVER spend that kind of money on ANY car, and then tell me how many of these "toys" will be sold.

I'll state right now that I happen to own about 3,000 shares of Ford Canada class A stock, and I'd much rather see them concentrate on the cars and vans that do MAKE MONEY, instead of this dream car. No trunk, reliability questions on the engine, and a fair weather car design, all add up to a near zero score as a mass market car.

I got a real laugh out watching the team try to fire up the V-10 engine but the computer could not be "urged" to put in more spark advance, cause the software wouldn't do it. I remember with fondness the old days when you simply loosened the distributor shaft clamp and turned it to the "sweet spot" then clamped it back down, after a timing light check, of course.

The NEW COBRA will be a big hit with a very small minority of the public who can afford a car that you can't drive in the rain, can't carry any luggage, and can't park it anywhere due to worries about it being stolen or vandalised. Great idea. I don't think>

Jim Bunting. Toronto. Ontario. Canada.

Jim,
Wow, you know how to make friends fast :thumbsup:

Luckily NightRider was able to say a lot about what I was going to say. Do you believe the same things about the Dodge Viper that you believe about the Shelby Cobra? Because it's the same thing. The Cobra concept is just like the RT/10 concept was back around 1990. It is not production ready but it could be. It has few amenities but that could be changed. And it's balls to the wall fast and makes Ford look amazing to people like lexus1581 who started this thread. If they convert a few people into Ford fans (and sure I am one, but I am also a Chevy fan, a Mazda fan, a VW fan, etc. so don't think I'm a rabid drooling Ford Rules! kinda guy, which seems to be your assumption with the "saliva" comment) then they did their job.

Will Byrd. Alexandria. Virginia

scubie02
The development of high performance vehicles by companies breeds the technology that is eventually passed down to the humdrum vehicles as still newer, better technology is developed. If all we were going to drive were the boring cars, there would be no innovation, right? If thats a big plus for you...well, I've got some Trabants I'd be happy to sell you...

Scubie02. Not Canadian.

Horus
Will Byrd. Alexandria. Virginia
nice touch, :thumbsup:

FabUlous
did anyone see the new suzuki verona?

oh man its got this sweet v6 thats r eally economical, not the fastest in its class but its the cheapest. hoo boy i cant wait to see how many units that baby is gonna sell, unlike that stupid honda accord with its fast v6, who are they trying to fool!


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